I will NOT be replying to any anons coming into my askbox bitching about the Depp vs. Heard case again.
It has been a year since Amber Heard has been proven to be a liar. The truth is out.
You choosing to ignore pure logic and your own eyes apparently to continue believing a proven liar and abuser just because of her gender is not my fucking problem anymore. That’s on you.
Don’t come into my askbox bitching about how nonono this and this and that happened. Don’t give me edited photos and tell me this is evidence. Don’t give me hearsay testimony and tell me this is evidence. Don’t try to manipulate the narrative of what actually happened because I watched that trial and I heard those recordings, I heard their testimonials and the witnesses on both sides. I heard both of them on that stand. I saw the texts, the emails, the pictures and all the other evidence that wasn’t even used in the trial so don’t try to sell me bullshit because I’m not buying it.
[Caption: four large gifs from The Vampire Diaries. On prom night, Caroline and Tyler slow dance, alone on his house’s living room. The first gif shows Caroline, with her eyes closed, leaning more into him, moving her hand from his shoulder to his back. The second one shows Tyler’s expression, with a melancholic smile before he too closes his eyes, resting his head against her. The third one shows a full body shot of the both of them dancing in front of the fireplace, surrounded by portraits, with their hands linked and Tyler’s hand on her waist. The fourth and last gif focuses on Caroline’s expression again; she briefly opens her eyes, with her face as close to his as possible, and closes them back again as her hand moves on his shoulder, as if gently grabbing onto him.]
“[The dynamics are] complicated. A non-linear progress… It becomes a lot more opaque what the right thing to do is, and who should, if anyone should, end up with each other. It’s not as straightforward as one of them wants to be with the other; it’s far more complex, and all of the characters see it as a complex conundrum.” — Phil Dunster on Jamie’s Relationships With Roy and Keeley in Season 3
I am sorry…… are Mediterranean skintones something like a canvas or a “default” color to the USAmerican producers of the movie and the platform itself?? Are we a coloring book or something to them?? We are not a people but an idea or something? The mindset behind this change is disgusting! As a Macedonian Greek I feel so repulsed by how they erase us every fucking time because they refuse to do a one-minute Google search.
Did they COMPLETELY ignore how North Mediterranean people look (Cleopatra’s family was North Greek) in order to give some hollow Black “representation?” Cleopatra wasn’t even Black! (And we don’t consider her Brown either!) If we are at a point where racebending historical figures who were most famously Not Black is widely accepted, we really need to examine how this “historical revision” is spiraling.
Next time you hear USian media “respects culture” and it’s “inclusionary” please know that this is a load of bullshit. They are ignorant and entitled still, but with a performative goodness as a cover.
On what grounds do the producers and the actors feel comfortable taking representation away from Mediterraneans? A representation we need, mind you, because as it’s APPARENT, people don’t know how we look!
Especially USAmericans who produce worldwide media and are responsible for the image of the Greek culture and people around the world. They have no freaking idea. They don’t know how to spot us or recognize us! And they still insist on racist stereotypes from the 1920s-1940s because of almost nonexistent Greek representation (and North Greek representation)!
The Tweet is made by an Egyptian btw! And Egyptians do well to speak for the USAmericanization of their culture because they are at the same boat as us Greeks when it comes to how we are perceived worldwide due to USAmerican media.
Also since there’s an overlap on how Greeks and Egyptians look, it would be fine if an Egyptian or any other Mediterranean would play her honestly. But for Cleopatra, the first person you consider is a Greek woman! (North Greek woman specifically, if you want to accurately capture the mixes of that area)
The trailer is even worse because there’s a Caucasian (for a lack of a better term!) Egyptian guy saying “I imagine her like me, with curly hair” while he doesn’t have Black hair. Yet the documentary pretends they somehow fulfilled his wish by casting an actress who has Black hair.
Also I think we have depictions of Cleopatra so the way you imagine her, even if you are Greek or Egyptian, you need to take this into account as a guideline. “I imagine” is not how you respectfully depict historical figures!
The point is they relied on that comment to decide she must have curly = aka Black hair. Which….. is not the case. If you go around in Curly Hair circles there are different types. And Black people also know that protective styles for their hair won’t protect the curly hair of Caucasian people. I knew a few North Greeks who have this type of hair - as this guy - and they are definitely not Black.
Oh, and the actress doesn’t have a skin color like this guy, he is much lighter and, according to USians, he is Brown, not Black. (I hate using the terms but whatever) The actress who plays Cleopatra, Adele James, isn’t even partly Egyptian or Greek from what I know?
And the fact that the documentary depicts the Ptolemys (North Greeks) and North Egyptians as Black USians (African Americans)?? The people in these lands…. don’t look like this! Just GO to these places and see the people living there, SEE their ancient depictions that give us images of people in these lands thousands of years back! The fucking audacity and the outright racism to assume things about how people look just from stereotypes, and then sell that for money!
Then we have this random woman from the US… They use a quote from her “No matter what they tell you in school, Cleopatra was Black”. Sure… Sure fam
How tf is it acceptable to take a shit on the effort of the Greek and Egyptian huge archaeological teams and expertise by saying “ACTUALLY, you guys don’t know your own history! You are primitive and you cannot POSSIBLY have the tools or the knowledge to examine how Cleopatra looked!”
Anyways, take some faithful reconstructions of Cleopatra, based on her depictions, where she looks Mediterranean and Greek!
As an Egyptian I agree with every single word in this post, this is downright blackwashing history, this is no Disney, not tinker bell or the little mermaid, this is a real person & it’s history and heritage of the Egyptians and the Greeks which none of them were black to start with.
From Executive Producer Jada Pinkett Smith comes a new documentary series exploring the lives of prominent and iconic African Queens. This season will feature Cleopatra, the world’s most famous, powerful, and misunderstood woman - a daring queen whose beauty and romances came to overshadow her real asset: her intellect. Cleopatra’s heritage has been the subject of much academic debate, which has often been ignored by Hollywood. Now our series re-assesses this fascinating part of her story.
I’m sorry but wtf is this? This is supposedly a page about ancient Egypt and yet OP is totally fine with making gifs about a “documentary” that is very clearly falsifying and culturally appropriating Egypt’s history. Jada Pinkett Smith and all afrocentrics need to sit the fuck down and do their fucking research for once.
Also, Cleopatra wasn’t even Egyptian, she was Macedonian/Greek, you fucking embecils.
Cleopatra’s mother probably was Cleopatra V but we don’t know for certain so she could have been Egyptian. I made the gifset to spark discussion not to say I agree or disagree with the documentary. If I make a gifset it doesn’t mean I agree with everything it says. It’s a vehicle for people to express their opinions.
Even if Cleopatra’s mother was Egyptian (and that’s a big IF) that still would not make her black! So many studies have been done about this and yet the afrocentric movement is still adamant on stealing our culture and claiming it as their own.
I understand that this isn’t your fault OP and I’m sorry if my anger is misplaced but putting a spotlight on it by making this gifset without making it clear how inaccurate this is will understandably make Egyptians angry.
What I’m stating isn’t an “opinion” and we shouldn’t give creative license to this when it’s marketing itself as a “documentary”. Documentaries should be based on historical facts, not a political agenda.
“I remember my grandmother saying to me, I don’t care what they tell you in school, Cleopatra was black”
That’s an actual quote from the trailer…this isn’t based on any historial facts, this is based on someone’s need to feel important so instead of researching their own history and being proud of it, they’re appropriating another people’s history and culture!
Just curious, but do you have any headcanons for forwood?
My headcanon for forwood is that they both got the hell out of Mystic Falls at the end of season 3 and never looked back. They are now traveling the world and exploring it, happy and together ❤️
